Tesk: I am happy. I just realized. I mean really happy, not the yay! pie! happy but the full to the brim of love and productiveness. Yeah, I've got some troubles now and some coming but I know I'll come out better than I go in because I have confidence in myself and love for myself.
Michael: Good work, nigger broheem.
Tesk: That is just not alright, Michael. Don't use that word.
Michael: I won't use the 'B' word again, sorry, Niggz.
Tesk: Seriously, man. Don't say it in any form. It's offensive.
Michael: I don't see anything offensive about it. If someone called me 'cracker', I'd be fine with it, because it's just a skin color. Nothing more. I think you're just light-hearted.
Tesk: I think it's a word that represents generations of oppression and senseless hatred. I think that It's a word that is more disgusting than any other in any language I have heard before because it represents the worst humanity has in itself. I think you just don't fucking joke about how terrible it is to be hated just because of the way you were born.
Cracker doesn't compare. It's not the same. It's not even on the same league as that word. Cracker still wears a bib and scoots around on its diapered ass. That word is inconceivably awful and it's impossible to fully empathize with how it can make the person it's directed at feel.
Michael: I stand by my argument that racial slurs are only offensive if one makes it offensive.
Same with any kind of discriminative word. 'Faggot' for example. I don't see the point of any of these words being taken offensively, they're just words. Racism means nothing, because skin colour means nothing. So, black people were taken into slavery a while back. So what? If anything, it's white people who should get offended by such a word for their massive ignorance and greed.
Tesk: I've run out of words for the stupid in that sentence. Is this a sticks and stones argument? Words will never hurt you but sticks and stones will? I suppose that lynching disproves that, hm? That's sticks, stones, and names! Wow, gee. What a dealy, yo?
Michael: *waits*
Tesk: If you honestly think you're on the level about what it's like to be discriminated against, to be the victim of prejudice, or to feel the full brunt of someone's irrational hatred then you are far too ignorant to function properly. If you think you have even remotely "trumped" me then you are far more a fool than I thought you were. Get off your fucking horse and look around. Racism isn't gone. It's alive and ugly and no little boy talking about words he knows the definition of but has no comprehension of the meaning behind them can ever think to so much as come close.
Michael: I know what it's like to be discriminated against and I know what it's like the be the victim of prejudice. No, I never, ever used the word out of irrational hatred. There is no reason for hatred. If black people can so freely use a word that is so discriminative of themselves, why do they do it? Because they don't actually care. The word was never offensive and never will be offensive, unless heard by stuck up prudes like yourself. People need to learn that if a word is used as a fun loving greeting or title, it's not meant to offend and it shouldn't. No matter what the word. Don't take life so serious, niggz.
Tesk: You really will never get it. Just as much as I won't. You just refuse to understand that there's a difference.
They don't use the word because they don't care. Some of them use it to make it hurt less; to make the sting of it less harsh when others say it. The word is offensive and has always been offensive and no matter what you do it won't make it any different. Because that word is a scar across society. Now, a scar. Think of it as a barely closed wound, still red and swollen and hurting because it is.
I am not stuck up and I am not a prude; I just have respect for the people I love. And I can see it in faces I pass and in situations that come up that it is in no way a fun loving word or title.
What you're doing it sterilizing it in the most crass and offensive way possible. What you are trying to do will make the word lose meaning and make people forget and that's not what needs to be done.
We should never forget what happened to those people. We should never paint over the pain and oppression they suffered just to make ourselves feel better. It was there and it happened and now what we have left is hatred personified in that word. Racism isn't over. It isn't even nearly there. That word you say should be used in a fun way is still used in a derogatory way.
This isn't some long past word that's no longer used is a slur but a still present and living beast that strikes out at others.
And it is never, ever oh-fucking-kay to use it.
Michael: It's pretty hilarious sometimes.
Tesk: This isn't a joke at all. Not even a little bit. And I want you to think about how un-funny it is. You've never tried to console a teenage girl, sobbing her eyes out because of that word before. You've never seen a woman stand to the side and watch a black girl get arrested and laugh like it's the rightest thing in the world. You've never seen what sort of destruction that word and its sentiment can bring.
Michael: Yes, but people are assholes.
Tesk: And you're definitely a people right now.
Michael: You know it.
Tesk: Indeed. I'm de-friending you now. This idiocy is not something I want to associate with.
Highly intelligent, observant, destructive when bored. Life-long insomniac, neurotic, terrible memory. Chronic. Heavily problematic. Immodest, attention whore, cussing habit. Likes to talk to strangers, unrepentant. Prone to anger. Prone to love. Obsessive. And all-around creep.
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Friday, July 29, 2011
Monday, May 2, 2011
In Response; Osama
In response to a Facebook status and comment.
bearing military in the entire world, "didn't have a choice" because fuck if they actually tell us the true story. Again, I don't think you're seeing that I'm saying he deserved it, we should have caught and tortured him for a very long time, if not, till his death, but not by our hands. By natural means. And you don't have to believe that you shouldn't kill him, that's your opinion, but it will never sit in my gut as "the right thing to do" in this situation. Its all political."
You said "we should have caught and tortured him for a very long time, if not, till his death"
But the problem is that we wouldn't have tortured him. Not even for a little bit.
Considering how high of a risk he is, he would have been put into our strongest off-country prison, guarded day and night by our best soldiers and, if he lived long enough, put to stand trial for his crimes against humanity. At best, he would have surved a life sentence and then possibly have been put to death. Or he may have just been put to death but at the same time it's entirely possible he could escape and return to his terrorist group and continue on as he had before.
But we would Never have tortured him. He would have been treated as a high-risk prisoner but an American prisoner. Meaning proper nutrition, healthcare, adequate housing, exercise and everything else Americans believe all people deserve.
He never would have to truly pay for his crimes. He would have lived in a plush cell with room service, always with the chance of escape.
With him dead, yes, his people will be angry, but if he had lived they would have turned him into a cause. They most probably would attack where ever he was kept in the hopes of getting him back. Which would unnecessarily have put soldiers at risk because it would be their duty to protect his cell, both from those attempting to assist in his escape and from those trying to kill him for his crimes.
I do believe it is a dark day when a man is forced to kill another man but it is most definitely a higher crime to torture another man because it most always ends up being a torture for both men and a torture on their societies. One because one of their own is being hurt purposely and maliciously and the other because they now have to bear the burden of knowing that they are allowing, or possibly encouraging, the victimization of another man.
Osama tortured people. He terrorized them and made them feel unsafe in their homes, jobs, and in other countries. It wasn't just the U.S. that he committed crimes against. Killing him doesn't make us as bad as him because we didn't do it to terrorize his family, his faith, or his nation. We killed him in combat; in an effort to bring him to justice for what he has done. What would have made us just as bad as him, maybe even worse than him, is if we had tortured him. Because we would have ended up torturing his family, his faith, and the people who followed him. And the only one of those four things that deserves to pay for his crimes is him."
The status:
"I feel slightly ashamed that people are rejoicing over this death. I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, but that's what makes us better than Terrorists? That we needn't return the killing. I believe in the sacredness of life. We wont forget those who have been lost, but is vengeance really the right path? You want justice, bring him to Guantanamo and make him suffer, death is release and not up to man to determine."
and the comment by the same person later in the conversation caused by the status:
"I don't buy it, I think they got "passionate" and decided to off him then and there. Who else gets the opportunity of knowing they killed the sob who heavily influenced 9/11? I don't buy for a minute that our military, the most advanced, smartest, weapons you-haven't-even-heard-of-
MY RESPONSE:
"Reading through this there was only one thing I could point out with facts that I find faulty. I disagree with the idea that killing the "bad guys" makes us "bad" but I respect your opinion and understand that it is necessary to have differing opinions to help sort of police the other side. If it weren't for people like you, ******, then it's possible that a country as powerful and wide reaching as ours would simply kill everyone who hindered us instead of finding another way. However, that's not why I wanted to comment.
You said "we should have caught and tortured him for a very long time, if not, till his death"
But the problem is that we wouldn't have tortured him. Not even for a little bit.
Considering how high of a risk he is, he would have been put into our strongest off-country prison, guarded day and night by our best soldiers and, if he lived long enough, put to stand trial for his crimes against humanity. At best, he would have surved a life sentence and then possibly have been put to death. Or he may have just been put to death but at the same time it's entirely possible he could escape and return to his terrorist group and continue on as he had before.
But we would Never have tortured him. He would have been treated as a high-risk prisoner but an American prisoner. Meaning proper nutrition, healthcare, adequate housing, exercise and everything else Americans believe all people deserve.
He never would have to truly pay for his crimes. He would have lived in a plush cell with room service, always with the chance of escape.
With him dead, yes, his people will be angry, but if he had lived they would have turned him into a cause. They most probably would attack where ever he was kept in the hopes of getting him back. Which would unnecessarily have put soldiers at risk because it would be their duty to protect his cell, both from those attempting to assist in his escape and from those trying to kill him for his crimes.
I do believe it is a dark day when a man is forced to kill another man but it is most definitely a higher crime to torture another man because it most always ends up being a torture for both men and a torture on their societies. One because one of their own is being hurt purposely and maliciously and the other because they now have to bear the burden of knowing that they are allowing, or possibly encouraging, the victimization of another man.
Osama tortured people. He terrorized them and made them feel unsafe in their homes, jobs, and in other countries. It wasn't just the U.S. that he committed crimes against. Killing him doesn't make us as bad as him because we didn't do it to terrorize his family, his faith, or his nation. We killed him in combat; in an effort to bring him to justice for what he has done. What would have made us just as bad as him, maybe even worse than him, is if we had tortured him. Because we would have ended up torturing his family, his faith, and the people who followed him. And the only one of those four things that deserves to pay for his crimes is him."
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